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Re: [coldsync-hackers] m505 - identifying user -> stall



Hi Andrew

* Andrew Arensburger <arensb+CShackers@ooblick.com> [011208 21:17]:
> 	This is now part of the newly-released version 2.2.5. I
> suggest you try building that. The main change is that instead of
> "listen usb_m50x", you'll need to use
> 
> 	listen serial {
> 		protocol: simple;
> 		device: /dev/ttyUSB1;	# Or whatever
> 		transient;		# If /dev uses devfs
> 	}

This works.  It suggested me to put this in my .coldsyncrc:

pda {
        snum: "XXX";    # anonymized ;)
        username: "thomasb";
        userid: 26042;
}


But backing up my Palm or installing new applications does
still not work.

> 	Off the top of my head, I'm not sure what's going on. Try
> building and running version 2.2.5. If that doesn't work, make sure
> your USB drivers and whatnot are all up to date. If that still doesn't
> work, try running ColdSync with "-dmisc:5 -dsync:5 -dio:5"; that might
> give some useful information.

I attached you two examples:

-->-->-->--
::: coldsync -mr ~/src/hafas/hafaspalm.prc  -dmisc:5 -dsync:5 -dio:5
Allocated sync_config 0x809e518
UID: 1500, euid 1500
HOME: "/home/thomasb"
Reading "/home/thomasb/.coldsyncrc"
Summary of sync configuration:
Listen:
	Type: 0
	Device: [/dev/usb/tts/1]
	Speed: 0
	Protocol: 2
	Flags: TRANSIENT
Known PDAs:
PDA:
	Serial number: [XXXX]
	Directory: [(null)]
	Username: [thomasb]
	UserID: 26042
	Flags:
The queue of conduits:
  Conduit:
	flavors: 0x0004 SYNC
	Creator/Types:
	  [
	Path: [[generic]]
	DEFAULT
	Headers:
	Preferences:
coldsync version 2.2.5.
ColdSync homepage at http://www.ooblick.com/software/coldsync/
Compile-type options:
    HAVE_STRCASECMP, HAVE_STRNCASECMP: strings are compared without regard
        to case, whenever possible.

    Default global configuration file: /usr/local/etc/coldsync.conf
Options:
	Mode: Restore
	conf_fname: "/home/thomasb/.coldsyncrc"
	conf_fname_given: False
	devname: (null)
	devtype: -1
	protocol: 0
	force_slow: False
	force_fast: False
	check_ROM: False
	install_first: True
	force_install: False
	use_syslog: False
	log_fname: ""

hostid == 0xc0a80001 (192.168.00.01)

Debugging levels:
	SLP:	0
	CMP:	0
	PADP:	0
	DLP:	0
	DLPC:	0
	PDB:	0
	SYNC:	5
	PARSE:	0
	IO:	5
	MISC:	5
Opening device [/dev/usb/tts/1]
Warning: no device on /dev/usb/tts/1. Sleeping
PConnection fd == 3
Discovering available speeds.
Trying 230400 bps (4099)... yes
Assuming 230400 bps (4099) yes
Assuming 115200 bps (4098) yes
Assuming 57600 bps (4097) yes
Assuming 38400 bps (15) yes
Assuming 19200 bps (14) yes
Assuming 9600 bps (13) yes
Assuming 4800 bps (12) yes
Assuming 2400 bps (11) yes
Assuming 1200 bps (9) yes
Please press the HotSync button.
netsync_read(ritual resp 1) returned 1
<<< 90 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 08 00 00   | ......... ......
<<< 01 00 00 00 00 00                                 | ......
netsync_write(ritual stmt 2) returned 50
netsync_read returned 1
<<< 92 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 24 ff ff   | ......... ...$˙˙
<<< ff ff 00 3c 00 3c 40 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00   | ˙˙.<.<@.........
<<< 04 00 00 00 04 00 00 3c 00 3c 00 00 00 00 00 00   | .......<.<......
<<< 00 00                                             | ..
netsync_write(ritual stmt 3) returned 46
netsync_read returned 1
<<< 93 00 00 00 00 00 00 00                           | ........
Error: only read 4 bytes of NetSync packet header.
Warning: Restore: Can't delete database "SBB CFF FFS": -1.
Error: Can't restore directory.
===== Finished syncing
Calling io_drain()
Freeing sync_config 0x809e518
ColdSync terminating normally
--<--<--<--

-->-->-->--
::: src/coldsync -mb ~/palmbackup  -dmisc:5 -dsync:5 -dio:5
UID: 1500, euid 1500
HOME: "/home/thomasb"
Reading "/home/thomasb/.coldsyncrc"
Summary of sync configuration:
Listen:
	Type: 0
	Device: [/dev/usb/tts/1]
	Speed: 0
	Protocol: 2
	Flags: TRANSIENT
Known PDAs:
PDA:
	Serial number: [XXXX]
	Directory: [(null)]
	Username: [thomasb]
	UserID: 26042
	Flags:
The queue of conduits:
  Conduit:
	flavors: 0x0004 SYNC
	Creator/Types:
	  [
	Path: [[generic]]
	DEFAULT
	Headers:
	Preferences:
coldsync version 2.2.5.
ColdSync homepage at http://www.ooblick.com/software/coldsync/
Compile-type options:
    HAVE_STRCASECMP, HAVE_STRNCASECMP: strings are compared without regard
        to case, whenever possible.

    Default global configuration file: /usr/local/etc/coldsync.conf
Options:
	Mode: Backup
	conf_fname: "/home/thomasb/.coldsyncrc"
	conf_fname_given: False
	devname: (null)
	devtype: -1
	protocol: 0
	force_slow: False
	force_fast: False
	check_ROM: False
	install_first: True
	force_install: False
	use_syslog: False
	log_fname: ""

hostid == 0xc0a80001 (192.168.00.01)

Debugging levels:
	SLP:	0
	CMP:	0
	PADP:	0
	DLP:	0
	DLPC:	0
	PDB:	0
	SYNC:	5
	PARSE:	0
	IO:	5
	MISC:	5
Backup directory: "/home/thomasb/palmbackup"
Opening device [/dev/usb/tts/1]
Warning: no device on /dev/usb/tts/1. Sleeping
PConnection fd == 3
Discovering available speeds.
Trying 230400 bps (4099)... yes
Assuming 230400 bps (4099) yes
Assuming 115200 bps (4098) yes
Assuming 57600 bps (4097) yes
Assuming 38400 bps (15) yes
Assuming 19200 bps (14) yes
Assuming 9600 bps (13) yes
Assuming 4800 bps (12) yes
Assuming 2400 bps (11) yes
Assuming 1200 bps (9) yes
Please press the HotSync button.
netsync_read(ritual resp 1) returned 1
<<< 90 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 08 00 00   | ......... ......
<<< 01 00 00 00 00 00                                 | ......
netsync_write(ritual stmt 2) returned 50
netsync_read returned 1
<<< 92 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 24 ff ff   | ......... ...$˙˙
<<< ff ff 00 3c 00 3c 40 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00   | ˙˙.<.<@.........
<<< 04 00 00 00 04 00 00 3c 00 3c 00 00 00 00 00 00   | .......<.<......
<<< 00 00                                             | ..
netsync_write(ritual stmt 3) returned 46
netsync_read returned 1
<<< 93 00 00 00 00 00 00 00                           | ........
Backing everything up.
Inside full_backup() -> "/home/thomasb/palmbackup"
===== Got memory info:
	Total size:	48
	Card number:	0
	Card version: 1 (0x01)
	Creation time: 35:20:12 6/4/2001
	ROM: 3670012 (0x37fffc)
	RAM: 8388608 (0x800000)
	Free RAM: 7187206 (0x6dab06)
	Card name (8) "PalmCard"
	Manufacturer name (14) "Palm Computing"
	ROM databases: 296
	RAM databases: 38

Database list:
Name                            flags type crea ver mod. num
        ctime                mtime                baktime
AddressDB                        0008 DATA addr   0 00000007
        13:29:03 20/03/2001  20:06:16 08/12/2001  20:06:16 08/12/2001
DatebookDB                       0008 DATA date   0 00000007
        19:25:56 08/12/2001  20:06:16 08/12/2001  20:06:16 08/12/2001
MailDB                           0008 DATA mail   0 00000001
        13:17:23 02/03/2001  19:21:10 08/12/2001  20:06:16 08/12/00
MemoDB                           0008 DATA memo   0 00000009
        18:04:35 27/02/2001  20:06:17 08/12/2001  20:06:17 08/12/2001
ConnectionMgrDB                  0008 DATA modm   0 00000022
        19:21:09 08/12/2001  19:55:02 08/12/2001  20:06:17 08/12/2001
NetworkDB                        0008 DATA netw   0 00000001
        16:56:09 20/11/2000  19:21:09 08/12/2001  19:25:58 08/12/2001
npadDB                           0008 DATA npad   0 0000000d
        09:55:01 19/02/2001  19:28:47 08/12/2001  20:06:17 08/12/2001
PhoneRegistryDB                  0008 DATA phop   1 00000001
        19:21:09 08/12/2001  19:21:09 08/12/2001  19:25:58 08/12/2001
ToDoDB                           0008 DATA todo   0 00000006
        15:54:21 05/04/2000  20:06:16 08/12/2001  20:06:16 08/12/2001
Tarzan of the ApesKz             0008 Data PPrs   0 00000006
        20:06:47 08/12/2001  20:07:49 08/12/2001  20:06:16 08/12/00
powerOneDB                       0008 Data pwr1   0 00000011
        19:29:09 08/12/2001  19:29:09 08/12/2001  20:06:18 08/12/2001
12 Valuable Ways                 0008 PNRd PPrs   0 0000005b
        20:06:13 08/12/2001  20:06:15 08/12/2001  20:06:15 08/12/2001
Tarzan of the Apes               0008 PNRd PPrs   0 00000137
        20:06:05 08/12/2001  20:06:13 08/12/2001  20:06:13 08/12/2001
Palm™ Reader Voreinstellungen    0008 Pref PPrs   0 00000007
        20:06:43 08/12/2001  20:07:49 08/12/2001  20:06:13 08/12/00
CRMASave                         0008 SAVE CCB    0 0000004d
        19:37:22 08/12/2001  19:57:38 08/12/2001  20:06:18 08/12/2001
Giraffe High Score               0009 SCOR Gira   0 00000002
        19:37:31 08/12/2001  19:37:55 08/12/2001  20:06:18 08/12/2001
Gammon                           0009 appl CSMT  12 00000064
        19:28:40 08/12/2001  19:28:44 08/12/2001  19:28:44 08/12/2001
Giraffe                          0009 appl Gira   1 00000024
        19:28:44 08/12/2001  19:28:45 08/12/2001  19:28:45 08/12/2001
HardBall                         0009 appl HBAL   1 0000001d
        19:28:38 08/12/2001  19:28:38 08/12/2001  19:28:38 08/12/2001
Palm Reader                      0009 appl PPrs 100 0000006b
        20:06:02 08/12/2001  20:06:05 08/12/2001  20:06:05 08/12/2001
SubHunt                          0009 appl SUBH   1 00000029
        19:28:40 08/12/2001  19:28:40 08/12/2001  19:28:40 08/12/2001
Graffiti                         0001 appl gdem   1 00000000
        20:41:18 09/03/2001  20:41:18 09/03/2001  19:28:40 08/12/00
MineHunt                         0009 appl mine   1 00000016
        19:28:39 08/12/2001  19:28:39 08/12/2001  19:28:39 08/12/2001
Puzzle                           0009 appl puzl   1 0000000e
        19:28:39 08/12/2001  19:28:39 08/12/2001  19:28:39 08/12/2001
powerOne                         0009 appl pwr1   2 0000002f
        19:28:36 08/12/2001  19:28:38 08/12/2001  19:28:38 08/12/2001
AddressCitiesDB                  0108 city addr   0 00000001
        20:06:53 08/12/2001  20:06:53 08/12/2001  19:28:38 08/12/00
AddressCompaniesDB               0108 cmpy addr   0 00000001
        20:06:53 08/12/2001  20:06:53 08/12/2001  19:28:38 08/12/00
AddressCountriesDB               0108 cnty addr   0 00000001
        20:06:53 08/12/2001  20:06:53 08/12/2001  19:28:38 08/12/00
psysLaunchDB                     0068 lnch psys   1 00000499
        00:00:00 25/06/1974  20:06:31 08/12/2001  20:06:19 08/12/2001
Graffiti ShortCuts               0009 macr graf   0 0000000b
        15:37:37 07/06/2000  19:21:11 08/12/2001  19:25:59 08/12/2001
Palm Reader_deDE                 0809 ovly PPrs 100 00000059
        20:06:00 08/12/2001  20:06:01 08/12/2001  20:06:01 08/12/2001
Graffiti_deDE                    0801 ovly gdem   1 00000000
        21:07:54 09/03/2001  21:07:54 09/03/2001  20:06:01 08/12/00
Unsaved Preferences              0001 pref psys   0 0000004a
        19:20:48 08/12/2001  21:53:25 08/12/2001  20:06:01 08/12/00
Net Prefs                        0001 rsrc netl   0 0000000d
        19:20:48 08/12/2001  19:20:52 08/12/2001  20:06:01 08/12/00
MIDI-Systemsignale               0008 smfr psys   1 00000016
        19:21:09 08/12/2001  19:21:09 08/12/2001  19:25:59 08/12/2001
Saved Preferences                0009 sprf psys   0 00000039
        19:20:48 08/12/2001  21:52:43 08/12/2001  20:06:19 08/12/2001
AddressStatesDB                  0108 stat addr   0 00000001
        20:06:53 08/12/2001  20:06:53 08/12/2001  20:06:19 08/12/00
AddressTitlesDB                  0108 titl addr   0 00000001
        20:06:53 08/12/2001  20:06:53 08/12/2001  20:06:19 08/12/00
Inside mkpdbname("/home/thomasb/palmbackup","AddressDB")
mkpdbname:    -> "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/AddressDB.pdb"
download_database:
	name: "AddressDB"
	attributes: 0x0008
	version: 0
	ctime: -1227031153
	mtime: -1204284120
	baktime: -1204284120
	modnum: 7
	appinfo_offset: 0
	sortinfo_offset: 0
	type: 'DATA'
	creator: 'addr'
	uniqueIDseed: 0

	nextID: 0
	len: 2
download_database: got an AppInfo block
download_records: Reading a chunk of record IDs starting at 0
Wrote "AddressDB" to "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/AddressDB.pdb"
va_add_to_log: vsnprintf() returned 22, buf == [Backup AddressDB - OK
]
Inside mkpdbname("/home/thomasb/palmbackup","DatebookDB")
mkpdbname:    -> "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/DatebookDB.pdb"
download_database:
	name: "DatebookDB"
	attributes: 0x0008
	version: 0
	ctime: -1204286540
	mtime: -1204284120
	baktime: -1204284120
	modnum: 7
	appinfo_offset: 0
	sortinfo_offset: 0
	type: 'DATA'
	creator: 'date'
	uniqueIDseed: 0

	nextID: 0
	len: 0
download_database: got an AppInfo block
Wrote "DatebookDB" to "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/DatebookDB.pdb"
va_add_to_log: vsnprintf() returned 23, buf == [Backup DatebookDB - OK
]
Inside mkpdbname("/home/thomasb/palmbackup","MailDB")
mkpdbname:    -> "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/MailDB.pdb"
download_database:
	name: "MailDB"
	attributes: 0x0008
	version: 0
	ctime: -1228587053
	mtime: -1204286826
	baktime: 2082844799
	modnum: 1
	appinfo_offset: 0
	sortinfo_offset: 0
	type: 'DATA'
	creator: 'mail'
	uniqueIDseed: 0

	nextID: 0
	len: 1
download_database: got an AppInfo block
download_records: Reading a chunk of record IDs starting at 0
Wrote "MailDB" to "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/MailDB.pdb"
va_add_to_log: vsnprintf() returned 19, buf == [Backup MailDB - OK
]
Inside mkpdbname("/home/thomasb/palmbackup","MemoDB")
mkpdbname:    -> "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/MemoDB.pdb"
download_database:
	name: "MemoDB"
	attributes: 0x0008
	version: 0
	ctime: -1228829021
	mtime: -1204284119
	baktime: -1204284119
	modnum: 9
	appinfo_offset: 0
	sortinfo_offset: 0
	type: 'DATA'
	creator: 'memo'
	uniqueIDseed: 0

	nextID: 0
	len: 4
download_database: got an AppInfo block
download_records: Reading a chunk of record IDs starting at 0
Wrote "MemoDB" to "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/MemoDB.pdb"
va_add_to_log: vsnprintf() returned 19, buf == [Backup MemoDB - OK
]
Inside mkpdbname("/home/thomasb/palmbackup","ConnectionMgrDB")
mkpdbname:    -> "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/ConnectionMgrDB.pdb"
download_database:
	name: "ConnectionMgrDB"
	attributes: 0x0008
	version: 0
	ctime: -1204286827
	mtime: -1204284794
	baktime: -1204284119
	modnum: 34
	appinfo_offset: 0
	sortinfo_offset: 0
	type: 'DATA'
	creator: 'modm'
	uniqueIDseed: 0

	nextID: 0
	len: 6
download_database: got an AppInfo block
download_records: Reading a chunk of record IDs starting at 0
Wrote "ConnectionMgrDB" to "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/ConnectionMgrDB.pdb"
va_add_to_log: vsnprintf() returned 28, buf == [Backup ConnectionMgrDB - OK
]
Inside mkpdbname("/home/thomasb/palmbackup","NetworkDB")
mkpdbname:    -> "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/NetworkDB.pdb"
download_database:
	name: "NetworkDB"
	attributes: 0x0008
	version: 0
	ctime: -1237386727
	mtime: -1204286827
	baktime: -1204286538
	modnum: 1
	appinfo_offset: 0
	sortinfo_offset: 0
	type: 'DATA'
	creator: 'netw'
	uniqueIDseed: 0

	nextID: 0
	len: 3
download_databas: this db doesn't have an AppInfo block
download_records: Reading a chunk of record IDs starting at 0
Wrote "NetworkDB" to "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/NetworkDB.pdb"
va_add_to_log: vsnprintf() returned 22, buf == [Backup NetworkDB - OK
]
Inside mkpdbname("/home/thomasb/palmbackup","npadDB")
mkpdbname:    -> "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/npadDB.pdb"
download_database:
	name: "npadDB"
	attributes: 0x0008
	version: 0
	ctime: -1229549595
	mtime: -1204286369
	baktime: -1204284119
	modnum: 13
	appinfo_offset: 0
	sortinfo_offset: 0
	type: 'DATA'
	creator: 'npad'
	uniqueIDseed: 0

	nextID: 0
	len: 1
download_database: got an AppInfo block
download_records: Reading a chunk of record IDs starting at 0
Wrote "npadDB" to "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/npadDB.pdb"
va_add_to_log: vsnprintf() returned 19, buf == [Backup npadDB - OK
]
Inside mkpdbname("/home/thomasb/palmbackup","PhoneRegistryDB")
mkpdbname:    -> "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/PhoneRegistryDB.pdb"
download_database:
	name: "PhoneRegistryDB"
	attributes: 0x0008
	version: 1
	ctime: -1204286827
	mtime: -1204286827
	baktime: -1204286538
	modnum: 1
	appinfo_offset: 0
	sortinfo_offset: 0
	type: 'DATA'
	creator: 'phop'
	uniqueIDseed: 0

	nextID: 0
	len: 0
download_databas: this db doesn't have an AppInfo block
Wrote "PhoneRegistryDB" to "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/PhoneRegistryDB.pdb"
va_add_to_log: vsnprintf() returned 28, buf == [Backup PhoneRegistryDB - OK
]
Inside mkpdbname("/home/thomasb/palmbackup","ToDoDB")
mkpdbname:    -> "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/ToDoDB.pdb"
download_database:
	name: "ToDoDB"
	attributes: 0x0008
	version: 0
	ctime: -1257176035
	mtime: -1204284120
	baktime: -1204284120
	modnum: 6
	appinfo_offset: 0
	sortinfo_offset: 0
	type: 'DATA'
	creator: 'todo'
	uniqueIDseed: 0

	nextID: 0
	len: 1
download_database: got an AppInfo block
download_records: Reading a chunk of record IDs starting at 0
Wrote "ToDoDB" to "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/ToDoDB.pdb"
va_add_to_log: vsnprintf() returned 19, buf == [Backup ToDoDB - OK
]
Inside mkpdbname("/home/thomasb/palmbackup","Tarzan of the ApesKz")
mkpdbname:    -> "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/Tarzan of the ApesKz.pdb"
download_database:
	name: "Tarzan of the ApesKz"
	attributes: 0x0008
	version: 0
	ctime: -1204284089
	mtime: -1204284027
	baktime: 2082844799
	modnum: 6
	appinfo_offset: 0
	sortinfo_offset: 0
	type: 'Data'
	creator: 'PPrs'
	uniqueIDseed: 0

	nextID: 0
	len: 1
download_databas: this db doesn't have an AppInfo block
download_records: Reading a chunk of record IDs starting at 0
Wrote "Tarzan of the ApesKz" to "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/Tarzan of the ApesKz.pdb"
va_add_to_log: vsnprintf() returned 33, buf == [Backup Tarzan of the ApesKz - OK
]
Inside mkpdbname("/home/thomasb/palmbackup","powerOneDB")
mkpdbname:    -> "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/powerOneDB.pdb"
download_database:
	name: "powerOneDB"
	attributes: 0x0008
	version: 0
	ctime: -1204286347
	mtime: -1204286347
	baktime: -1204284118
	modnum: 17
	appinfo_offset: 0
	sortinfo_offset: 0
	type: 'Data'
	creator: 'pwr1'
	uniqueIDseed: 0

	nextID: 0
	len: 5
download_database: got an AppInfo block
download_records: Reading a chunk of record IDs starting at 0
Wrote "powerOneDB" to "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/powerOneDB.pdb"
va_add_to_log: vsnprintf() returned 23, buf == [Backup powerOneDB - OK
]
Inside mkpdbname("/home/thomasb/palmbackup","12 Valuable Ways")
mkpdbname:    -> "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/12 Valuable Ways.pdb"
download_database:
	name: "12 Valuable Ways"
	attributes: 0x0008
	version: 0
	ctime: -1204284123
	mtime: -1204284121
	baktime: -1204284121
	modnum: 91
	appinfo_offset: 0
	sortinfo_offset: 0
	type: 'PNRd'
	creator: 'PPrs'
	uniqueIDseed: 0

	nextID: 0
	len: 45
download_databas: this db doesn't have an AppInfo block
download_records: Reading a chunk of record IDs starting at 0
Wrote "12 Valuable Ways" to "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/12 Valuable Ways.pdb"
va_add_to_log: vsnprintf() returned 29, buf == [Backup 12 Valuable Ways - OK
]
Inside mkpdbname("/home/thomasb/palmbackup","Tarzan of the Apes")
mkpdbname:    -> "/home/thomasb/palmbackup/Tarzan of the Apes.pdb"
download_database:
	name: "Tarzan of the Apes"
	attributes: 0x0008
	version: 0
	ctime: -1204284131
	mtime: -1204284123
	baktime: -1204284123
	modnum: 311
	appinfo_offset: 0
	sortinfo_offset: 0
	type: 'PNRd'
	creator: 'PPrs'
	uniqueIDseed: 0

	nextID: 0
	len: 155
download_databas: this db doesn't have an AppInfo block
download_records: Reading a chunk of record IDs starting at 0
--<--<--<--

When I try to install the hafaspalm.prc, it cancels the
operation.  When I try to backup my palm, I hangs after it
has done some work and the Palm does time out after a while.

Thanks.

Cheers
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